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Formatting - Page Navigation

I've noticed that if the category and page navigation code is placed at the top of the code, it appears at the top, even if it has "Bottom Bar" at the beginning. It moves when the code is moved to the bottom. Am I doing something wrong, or is this just a bug? Atheist 20:15, 7 January 2008 (EST)

Also, if there's more that one section in a chapter (section meaning h5 heading), should there be a contents. I've seen that on a couple pages. Atheist 20:36, 7 January 2008 (EST)

Common Word Translations?

Is "cookie" really being used for "kingdom"? This seems to me to be something that wouldn't easily be understood by newcomers. Cattus petasatus 17:40, 17 October 2007 (EDT)

I'm a retard. I noted someone did that in Acts, and put it in Guidelines without thinking. We should have something for Kingdom, however. Comes up a lot in teh bibul. I was thinking howze. Making Kingdom of Heaven = Howze in Ceiling. Glintir 13:00, 18 October 2007 (CDT)
It's tricky ... ideally, whatever gets picked should work in phrases like "Thy kingdom come" or "The kingdom of Heaven is within you." Cattus petasatus 14:10, 18 October 2007 (EDT)
Forgot "They Kingdom come". Litterbox? Windowsill? Sunny Spot? Thy sunny spot come. The sunny spot in ceiling iz in u hed. Works, but is a touch weak. Glintir 13:15, 18 October 2007 (CDT)
I do like Sunny Spot, and it needs to be in here somewhere. Maybe in some of the descriptions of Paradise? Cattus petasatus 14:35, 18 October 2007 (EDT)
I decided Sunny Spot was the perfect translation for "green pastures" in Psalm 23. Cattus petasatus 15:20, 19 October 2007 (EDT)
Kingdom is a tricky word, a lot of people think it's Heaven, God's abode...but it's more about God's rule or reign so the quick and dirty way to translate that into english for me has always been God's will or plan..this might work out well since it should fit into most contexts...since that's generally the idea of the word in most new testament contexts, esp. in MMLandJ. So my suggestion would be something like "ceiling cats plans" or "plans" or "schemes" or maybe something more along the lines of reign, such as i think i read "comfy chair" somewhere or something to that effect. maybe something a cat owns that shows dominance like "scratching post" or "cat bowl" or "toy box" or "litter box" Whatever it is, I would urge that it not be confined to a place or location but try to convey reign or rule, area of influence...domain, like a king's domain is his kingdom. Let's look at some examples-
  • Luke 17:20 - One day the Pharisees asked Jesus, “When will the Kingdom of God come?”Jesus replied, “The Kingdom of God can’t be detected by visible signs.
  • Colossians 1:13 - For he has rescued us from the kingdom of darkness and transferred us into the Kingdom of his dear Son.
  • Luke 12:31 - Seek the Kingdom of God above all else, and he will give you everything you need.
  • John 3:3 - Jesus replied, “I tell you the truth, unless you are born again, you cannot see the Kingdom of God.”
Honestly after thinking about it...I think I like "Litter Box" maybe "special litter box"...all cats have them, they all understand them, and they can be territorial about them...BunnyStrider 23:10, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

Oh hai, Ai liekz "athiestie(s)" for "heathen(s)" (yuppers, bad spellin iz a must) anna ai liekz "liek a vampire-d00d" fur "everlasting life" and such. Ai uzez "yammrin" fur "praying" anna "bootlikr" fur "followers" and such. Youse all nies catz. K thnxbai.--Sips 09:42, 19 December 2007 (EST)

Do we have a firm word for disciple? I have seen dissypel, discpl, and d00d. Any opinions? I've been using dissypel.--lolcarol 02:05, 22 March 2008 (EDT)

Im in ur internetz, creatin ur forumz

I've set up a completely unofficial forum - feel free to drop by if you want. I'd like people to use their LOLcat Bible Project usernames as forum usernames, please.

For now the forum setup is super-simple - there's an On Topic and an Off Topic forum. If things get busy, I'll re-org as needed. Cattus petasatus 15:23, 13 October 2007 (EDT)

It's disappeared. Weather. --PopeHarrysHooman 23:08, 29 March 2008 (EDT)

ah! I'm going to setup a forum on's website soon. Just need to wait for this move to complete. Zotnix 23:16, 29 March 2008 (EDT)


I like the different styles, but shouldn't we at least use the same spellings for some common words like cheezburgr, cookiez, kinkz, teh, sed, doodz, usual abbreviationz (upper or lowercase) n stuff, just as a common base? So I'd suggest short a word list. What do you think? -- Landei

Yeah, I was thinking this. I'll make a new page for spelling guidelines. We'll discuss things there. --Zotnix 23:26, 1 September 2007 (EDT)
Isn't it generally accepted that it is spelled "kittahs" and not "kittehs"? I've seen a few instances of kittehs here, but I've always seen it as "kittahs" --Busydoingnothing 20:37, 9 October 2007 (EDT)
Nah, the inconsistency is part of the fun! I think it's an integral part of lolspeak (1337sp33k too). I'm doing it on purpose. Personally I prefer "kittehs" to "kittahs." Cute Overload (which is where I came from) always spells it "kittehs." -- Wotthe7734 00:42, 13 October 2007 (EDT)
I also use "kittehs" as this is what I see the most often on Cute Overload, and I Can Haz Cheezburgr.--lolcarol 02:07, 22 March 2008 (EDT)
I agree most closely with wotthe's opinion. While standardized grammar might make it easier to read, half the point of lolspeak is there is no standard. Darkeye11547 10:51, 24 October 2007 (EDT)
In actuality kitty pidgin (lolcat speak) is amazingly consistent and standardized. In lieu of this, I think it'd be better to try and capitalize on some of this consistency to make a coherent piece of work. However, yeah, there are variations, and these will be evidence throughout the LOLCat Bible --Zotnix 10:54, 24 October 2007 (EDT)
Indeed, kitty pidgin is quite consistent. It's easy to tell when something is not fluent kitty pidgin. There are different styles, but there is still a strong consistency between those styles. anshkakashi 15:14, 24 October 2007 (EDT)


Since anything found on ICHC and the like are creative Commons it's OK to add these photos? I have been adding a few photos to some chapters I hope it's OK -- Djkatscan 09:25, 13 October 2007 (EDT)

If they are CC-Attribution, make sure you put the original author's name in the description of the file. ^^; anshkakashi 19:45, 13 October 2007 (EDT)

HALP!! I am new, to all things wiki-editory, and have no clue how to properly insert the picture I just whipped up to put on Genesis 3. I tried doing the embedded image thingie but it turned out huge. How do I make it so it's small and/or like one of those link things where the picture is small on the page but is linked to the larger image elsewhere? Thanks!!Bornofstardust 12:38, 23 October 2007 (EDT)

Oh yes, and what sort of attribution do I have to do where? I made the image myself out of the Ceilingcat picture and a public domain Bible illustration by Gustave Dore. Bornofstardust 12:40, 23 October 2007 (EDT)
Attribution goes in the description of the file. Just go to the file and click edit and type in your attribution information. And to make the picture smaller, you could look at examples on other pages, but the basic syntax is: [[Image:imagename|thumb|300px|left]] where the 300px of course is the size of the thumbnail. Hope that helps! anshkakashi 15:13, 24 October 2007 (EDT)

Is a plain version of the Celling Cat image available on this site to use as a master for new images? PianoCat2112 21:36, 29 August 2008 (EDT)

I found a template at, but if a more official template exists, I'd prefer to use that. PianoCat2112 22:51, 1 September 2008 (EDT)

Other names

Can we has some specific name aliases? Moses could be Monorail Cat, David could be LOLrus. etc... But we'd need a proper agreed list?

Real names are better - less confusing, & the whole thing is funnier if you don't have to stop every 5 minutes & say "wtf? gon 2 raed dixionery, brb." kthxbai -- Wotthe7734 00:46, 13 October 2007 (EDT)
I think it was decided that we are gonna try to stick to the original names. Otherwise people will need a glossary to understand any of it, and that takes away the fun. -- anshkakashi 19:45, 13 October 2007 (EDT)

Any term for Satan yet, or are you leaving it the same? (wuz thinkin FloorCat, HellCat or sumthin) --Dial mcat 15:11, 19 October 2007 (EDT)

I suggest we can use Hitlercat when talking about Satan/the devil/whatever else he's called in the Bible. --witteafval 14:36, 21 October 2007 (MDT)

omg, LOVE IT!!! If we make God Ceiling Cat, why not make Satan Hitlercat? It's not so obscure that people wouldn't get it. Bornofstardust 12:44, 23 October 2007 (EDT)

I also like either "Jeebus" or "Jezuz" or "Jesuz." I think it's more fun to futz with his name just a smidge. Bornofstardust 12:47, 23 October 2007 (EDT)

What about changing "ham" to "hamhamdinner NOM NOM NOM?" that name is just begging to be messed with.--nupanick 15:33, 26 October 2007 (EDT)

Old thread is old, but this appears relevant to our interests: [1] Lytrigian 18:56, 22 January 2008 (EST)

LOLCat "in jokes"

Standard LOLCat-isms should also be defined and used consistently throughout. As explained elsewhere, "Ceiling Cat" is God. Because "can has cheezburgr" is so standard, that should have a definitive meaning (I propose that it pertain to salvation, eternal life and going to heaven.) But there should be a specific meaning for that, as well as for "Iz in ur." --Reimero 13:43, 9 October 2007 (EDT)

I don't agree with the "eternal life" thing. Yes, "cheezburgr" is standard, but I've only ever seen it used literally. Why mess with it? How about something like "can haz 9 gazillion lifes"? -- Wotthe7734 00:55, 13 October 2007 (EDT)
I kinda like using "can haz cheezburgr" for "bless," and some of the similar suggestions on the guidelines page, because you don't have to come up with a million ways of saying it and can go on to the parts that are more fun.
On the other hand, I'd be against standardizing "is in ur" - it occurs so many times now in a fairly literal sense ("Jonah wuz in ur whale makin ur sushis") that a lot of verses would get retroactively broken if we changed it to mean something else.
Plus, "can haz cheezburgr" is easily figured out by a newcomer: it clearly means getting something good. The more specific in-jokes we agree on, the fewer visitors will understand the project. (Let's face it, they're not going to go to the Guidelines page.) Cattus petasatus 08:33, 13 October 2007 (EDT)

o hai! Umm..i see in some verses they change all references to people to be kittys, and babys are kittens etc. Hands become paws etc. Are there any humans in this lolcat bible or do we assume everyone and everything is kittehs? Bboyneko 01:09, 16 October 2007 (EDT)

hai. problem wit dat is kittehs doesn't indicate gender. Which is important in the bible. I would use kittehs sparingly. Glintir 13:40, 18 October 2007 (CDT)
Or maybe just with attention to context; after all, you can often tell a person's gender from the rest of the verse. Cattus petasatus 14:56, 18 October 2007 (EDT)
Maybe Im confused but wouldnt you use basement cat for satan?? And I find kittehs amusing, Ive not seen any gender references that are important enough to replace it, could you give an example?? Could always use "whoa-man" or something lol Valucian 06:50, 17 March 2009 (EDT)

A useful text source

Here's a very good one many translations Over 18 dif translations in English alone

I have a searchable online Bible with about three different translations which might be useful for looking up texts. More flexible search options than a lot of online Bibles. (And if this ever gets completed, including apocrypha, I totally want to add it.) It's also the first online Bible I know of to link back to lolcatbible.

I have a favorite online bible I like to use: [2] has MANY translations. Also I like using this online lolcat talk translator: [[3]] The only bad thing about this translator is it generates ALL CAPS. So what i do is I cut and paste the text into WORD, then go to FORMAT > CHANGE CASE and select SENTENCE CASE which converts the all caps into normal sentences.
I suggest we post links to these two online bibles in the guidelines page or home page, and then also link to the lolcat translator so people can help us out faster. -- Bboyneko 13:16, 12 October 2007 (EDT)
I'm cutting & pasting from an online KJV at [4] (sry i iz wiki n00b & dont knos how 2 fixs taht linkx liek u d00ds did. wil lookz it up l8r & do it rite nxt tiem k?) No all-caps. I'm editing it in Bean (open-source word processing app, b-ll g-t-s is teh EVIL!!!!!!!!!) & it seems to be working OK. -- Wotthe7734 00:29, 13 October 2007 (EDT)


Common Memes in the LOLCatBible

Here are some suggestions for names of God not yet specified:

  • The Lord == Top Cat
  • Jesus == JesusCat
  • The Holy Spirit == HoverCat

Thus, the Trinity is Ceiling Cat / Top Cat, JesusCat, and HoverCat. --

What about "Invisible Ceiling Cat" for the Holy Spirit/Ghost? Loldave 13:45, 23 November 2007 (EST)
The trinity doesn't matter, the word and exact concept is never mentioned in the bible. Its more of a catholic thing like hail marys Bboyneko 14:09, 12 October 2007 (EDT)
In view of door cat subbing for ceiling cat, I wondered if Jesus == DoorCat? -- Flooof 13:53, 12 October 2007 (EDT)
Haha, I also kind'a like the idea, but I think that it's too obscure to really use. It has to retain some sort of connection to the actual story, or else it's just too difficult to understand, and actually loses some of the humor. Names are generally kept the same, and Jesus' name is actually used, whereas God is really an unnamed entity. anshkakashi 13:59, 12 October 2007 (EDT)
Hey, the inconsistency is part of the fun! (That includes inconsistent spelling, which I'm doing on purpose.) Besides, it won't take long for anyone who's even vaguely familiar with lolspeak to figure out what you're talking about. But I agree with anshkakashi, Doorcat doesn't really do it. I'd go with Jesuscat. I wouldn't have thought of Hovercat, but I like it! -- Wotthe7734 00:36, 13 October 2007 (EDT)
I LOVE HoverCat -- Djkatscan 09:00, 13 October 2007 (EDT)
Ditto! Glintir 13:15, 18 October 2007 (CDT)
Love it too! NoodleHat 12:23, 28 October 2007 (EDT)
Trinity doesn't matter? A catholic thing? Ooh, do we have the beginnings of a theological argument on lolcatbible? :P NoodleHat 12:23, 28 October 2007 (EDT)
Whatever your theological take on it, the three titles do appear together in the Bible, so we should be careful to make sure that the full set of names are consistent where they appear together. I'm thinking in particular of Mattthew 28:19 and 2 Corinthians 13:13, though I'm sure there are a couple more. Pseudonym 20:52, 18 November 2007 (EST)

What about Cheesus, for Jesus? 'Cause it SOUNDS like lolspeak, and it would mean "blesses us", if you equate "Cheese" with Cheezburgerz

I'm honestly a bit iffy on changing the names of people, though Jesus and Cheesus seem to fit nicely... and it DOES bring along the idea of "lolspeak" + "cheezburger for salvashun" type thing. I'll need to see more reaction to this idea before I send my bot master to make such a change.--Zotnix 20:14, 9 November 2007 (EST)
Cheesus is hilarious, I love Jeebus as my first choice though. Loldave 13:45, 23 November 2007 (EST)


I was wondering about a standard translation for 'Israel' as it comes up a lot. I used "all kittehs". What does anyone think? NoodleHat 12:18, 28 October 2007 (EDT)

Me Thoughts

Thoughts on terms/etc.

The "Ceiling Cat" really doesn't do it for me. Nor does the "Wall Cat". Considering how famed cats are for running on roof tops. It just seems very lacking to me.

I'm not sure what I'd go for in way of God instead. Maybe "MakeCat" or "SunCat" or "TopCat", "CatIAM", "The Burning Cat"..

Here are some ideas I have for other words. Remember, some things, people, beings in the Bible have multiple ways to refer to them. We shouldn't be opposed to having the same, be it: God, Lord, YHVH. Or Jesus, Emmanuel, Christ/Messiah, etc.

I think it might be cool to do: AEIE for YHVH. (I derivced the AEIE by taking just the vowels from CAT & FELINE to create a tetragram.)

WingCat = Angel (archangel = uberWingCat) Furless WingCat = Demon

I'll second the motion of HitlerCat = Satan

Sin, not quite getting the "invisible error". If you're trying to make some anti-Judeo/Christian inference with that translation. Then don't, we'll get a better product if it's just neutral and sticks to the translation and humor.

One thought regarding sin. It's often referred to as "missing the mark", this makes me think that "Miss'da'Box" might be a good equivalent for sin.

LitterBox = Gehenna/Hades

Kingdom = Cheezburger & Fries (ties into the blessing thing)

Spirit/Ghost/etc = 10th Life

Sword = Claw

Proper Names: In most cases I think we should either avoid changing the names. Perhaps just spell proper names in consonant caps (ie: MoSeS, DaViD, eLiJaH).

Or try to pick a famous act: Moses = BasketCat Adam = FirstCat Mordecai = Mordecat (makes sense, where ever we can insert cat into a name) Johosophat - Johosocat

The Holy Spirit = HoverCat (i'll second this one)

Jesus = The Cat / DoorCat / CrossCat / RighteousCat

Eternal Life = 9,000 Lives (not quite eternal, but gets the point across)

I don't think "all the kitties" works. Because it won't fit into the context. Israel never included all the kitties. In fact, that is almost the exact opposite of Israel. Israel was a "Peculiar People" or a "Chosen People". So I think we go with parralells of those two terms.

"Peculiar Cats"

"Chosen Cats" or "Choice Cats"

The reason "Trinity" doesn't matter? Is that you won't EVER find that word in the Bible. It's a term for a concept not an actual thing. It's not saying you might not have the concept - rather, there is no need to for a synonym LOLCAT word unless you start writing the LOLCAT BIBLE COMMENTARY. Cause the word just doesn't appear anywhere in the texts. That's all...

Big Arse Cat = Goliath

Prostitute/Adulteress = SheCat in Heat

Prophet = SeerCat

BTW, a good resource for a variety of translations of the Bible (for slight nuance differences) is: 10 or so translations plus the original Hebrew and Greek so you can guage what a word means independently.

I do like a lot of your ideas. Unfortunately "Ceiling Cat" is solidified in the eyes of the public as our version of God, and is damn well solidified. can't change that, unfortunately.
Inserting "cat" in a name where appropriate is an awesome idea, and will fit wonderfully. It won't be TOO different to confuse people, so that works.
HitlerCat, I'm afraid, I'll have to be totally against. I'd rather not bring in "Hitler" anywhere, as that just brings up a lot of external negative connotation. Odd, because that is what Satan does, but I do think just using that name would be a bit out of place. "Catan" may work, though doesn't sound very humorous. At present he just seems to be "Saitan". Will need more discussion on that.
The alternative names for whores/etc, awesome. like it a lot. Feel free to edit around. If it sticks then I can make guidelines to fit the changes.
Thanks for all the input! --Zotnix 20:23, 9 November 2007 (EST)


Since we brought up "Satan", it's probably worth briefly discussing the relevant source words, so we can work out a consisten way of translating them.

  • Satan (OT/NT) - Literally, "accuser" or "adversary", or even "the prosecutor". Note that in the OT, there doesn't appear to be a literal "devil" in the NT sense; Satan works for the Ceiling Cat as the prosecutor, and the Ceiling Cat is the judge.
  • Diabolos (NT) - Literally, "slanderer", usually translated "devil". See Revelation 12:9 in particular.
  • Daimonos (NT) - Literally, "evil spirit", usually translated "demon". Interestingly, in the NT, this always appears to refer to some kind of physical or mental affliction.

And then, there are a bunch of titles used as proper names:

  • Azazel (Leviticus 16)
  • Belial (OT/NT) - In the NT, it appears in 2 Corinthians 6:15. In the OT, it's usually in the phrase "sons of Belial" in the OT, referring to rebellious persons.
  • Heliel ben-shachar/Heosphoros/Lucifer (Isaiah 14:12-14 only) - Literally, "bright one, son of the dawn", sometimes translated "day star". This may or may not refer to Satan, depending on whom you ask.
  • Beelzebub/Baalzebub (OT/NT) - Literally, "lord of the flies". Originally a Philistine god, but used in the NT as a synonym for Satan.

There are also a bunch of other titles, like "the wicked one", "the dragon", "prince of this world" etc, which we can probably translate literally (or to something familiar to cats).

I think it's best to stick with "Saitin" to refer to Satan in the OT usage, and probably NT as well.

"Azazel", "Belial" and "Beelzebub" can probably be left untranslated, though I'm sure someone can come up with a creative misspelling for "Beelzebub".

"Day star"/"Lucifer" is going to be a tricky one. Even English Bible translators have a lot of difficulty with that one.

That leaves "diabolos" and "daimonos". Suggestions?

-- Pseudonym 07:07, 18 November 2007 (EST)

how's about "debil"? Transliterations can be valid interpretations, too. 23:14, 3 January 2008 (EST)Clover
It's incorrect to call "devil" and "demon" translations of "diabolos" and "daimonos". They're both Anglicized transliterations of those very words. "Debil" should work just fine for the one. But with caution, because the KJV uses "devil" where the originals might have "daimonos", "false god", etc. That's sometimes true even in the NT, as in Mt 7:22.
"Lucifer" is a Latinism I see no reason to concern ourselves with. As "bringer of light" it's equivalent to the LXX's ἑωσϕόρος "bringer of morning". Poetically "morning star", and used in that sense in the Iliad among other places so it's not a purely Biblical expression. [5] It's just an old dynamically equivalent translation of the Hebrew. "Lucifer" isn't really wrong, but it's so widely read as a personal name that to use it here conveys a sense due purely to later interpretation. I see no reason not to use "moarning star" or something similar. Perhaps a cat would emphasize the incipient sunbeams.
For "daimonos" I can't think of anything but "demon", although a cat might be over-dramatic about it and make it a wide-eyed, flat-eared "DEEEmon!" Lytrigian 20:10, 22 January 2008 (EST)


I've noticed a lack of consistency on how to translate the word "hell". Confusing things is that English bibles (e.g. the KJV) have the habit of translating a bunch of different words to the one word "hell". I think we should get this consistent because it affects the cosmonogy of lolcat culture. We know that gud kittehs goes 2 teh Ceiling. Where do teh bad kittehs go?

The words we're interested in are:

  • Gehenna (OT and NT) - This is literally the Hinnom gulch, which in Biblical times was a perpetually burning rubbish dump. Eventually it was used metaphorically to refer to the entrance to the underworld. Jesus also used this term, probably also metaphorically (i.e. the idea of being thrown on the rubbish heap, and getting destroyed in the fire).
  • Sheol (OT)/Hades (NT) - The world of the dead.
  • Tartarus (2 Peter 2:4 only) - One step lower than Hades, in Greek mythology.

In Matthew 5, I changed the instances of "Gehenna" to "trashcan", because in that case, Jesus seems to be referring directly to the Hinnom valley, as well as alluding to the metaphorical OT Gehenna.

I think this is a good term to use in general. So teh bad kittehs goes in teh trashcan, k?

I'm not sure about the other two terms. Does anyone have any suggestions?

-- Pseudonym 06:35, 18 November 2007 (EST)

Wouldn't "basement" work for Sheol-as-hell? I mean, if good kittehs go to the ceiling, then it would make sense, right?
Anne Onimus 02:53, 21 November 2007 (EST)
I like that. Pseudonym 06:36, 21 November 2007 (EST)
Correction: I have no idea why I wrote that three years ago, because it's not true. Good kitteks don't go to teh ceiling. Teh Ceiling is where Ceiling Cat lives. If, at teh last jujmnt, Jeezuz sez uz bin good kitteh, you will live out eternity in teh noo Urf mentioned in Revelation. Pseudonym 01:34, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
I suggested it because it seems kind of triply appropriate; traditional placement of heaven and hell, the fact that basements tend to be cold, damp, nasty places that may or may not contain furnaces, and also the horror movie cliche of basements being REALLY bad places to go into.
Someone else can make the BasementCat macro, though ^_-
Anne Onimus 17:02, 21 November 2007 (EST)
I'm not sure myself. I used "Littrbocks" for Hell in Acts... as it was a stinky "bad place"... but if a convention comes up, I'd use it. Hell is one of those strange places. I'm trying not to force memes in the lolcat bible... wondering if something will just crop up naturally... like Ceiling Cat for God did. --Zotnix 17:26, 21 November 2007 (EST)
Bad kittehs go in teh car to teh vet User:aventari

Please leave out propaganda

I had a concern about Hosea 1 verse 7 where the translator made a comment that was discriminatory against homosexuals, and the issue is not found in any of the English translations that I checked, and the OT scholar at my school said that the Hebrew also says nothing of the source. I felt that the translation into LOLcat scewed the wording to be anti-gay. I think that the translators ought to avoid adding personal or political agendas to their translations. Let's not make the same mistakes that the original King James translations did.02:23, 19 November 2007 (EST) Towefincat

Perhaps a better way of putting this is: Don't put in any prejudices that weren't there to begin with. This sounds like an excellent official guideline. Want to write it up for the main article? Pseudonym 06:38, 19 November 2007 (EST)
Yes, sounds good.

Catlik/Doglik translation

As everyone knows, the Catlik Bibel has liek some books in different order than Doglik Bible LOLOLOLOL. Which one we use?

How about we wait until we've finished these first? Going on to what the Catlikz call the "Deuterocanonical books" makes sense then. The other "standard" apocryphal books (e.g. Psalm 151) can come later. -- Pseudonym 22:20, 17 January 2008 (EST)
See the list at Dooter oaken nickels. This includes all the books recognized by my cat and master, Pope Harry of the Indoor Catlick Church, and I think that the Roamin Catlicks only use a small subset of these. --PopeHarrysHooman 02:58, 30 March 2008 (EDT)


I'm not especially familiar with cat behavior, but from what I've gathered they HATE getting wet. This in mind, is there a LOLCat term for being water baptized? cyberguybri 23:58, 8 December 2007 (EST)

Oh Hai. Ai uzd teh fraze: "wettin our furs inna rivr" inna Romans 6. K, thnxbai. --Sips 09:08, 19 December 2007 (EST)

I likz "lickz u clean" or "lickz-u-clean" as a sub for baptize Mousepyx 15:44, 21 December 2007 (EST)mousepyx

The word baptizô is an ordinary Greek word which means, more or less, "wash". I like "lickz kleen". It works nicely. -- Pseudonym 08:32, 30 December 2007 (EST)

In John 3, for baptizing, washded and washding were used and John the Baptist was hilariously referred to as John teh Washerer. Heh, Jahhnn teh Lik-Kleenerer? --Siebz 06:05, 3 January 2008 (EST)

This may or may not be of any moment here, but although "baptize" can be used for wash, that's actually an extension of its primary sense. To simply insert "wash" for "baptizo" is a mistranslation. It means "dip". There are other Greek words such as "plyno" with the primary meaning of "wash".

"John teh Washerer" is pretty funny though. "John teh Dipperer" maybe? Lytrigian 17:17, 19 January 2008 (EST)

Ark of the Convenant and Israel

What do we call the ark? I just made my first contribution at 1 Samuel 5 and followed the convention of 1 Samuel 4 in calling it Ceiling Catz Holi Litturbox (variously spelled) but this may not be quite the thing.

1 Sam 4 also called Israel Izzy, a convention I also followed, but I gather that may not be for the best either. Lytrigian 17:22, 19 January 2008 (EST)

What about, for the Ark, "Ceiling Cat's Holee Catbed". Seems to make sense. The Ark is where the Israelites thought God's spirit resided. Where else would a cat be other than his catbed? Hehe. Zotnix 18:54, 19 January 2008 (EST)
Or maybe a kitteh hammock. That's just the height of Cat luxury.Happyturtle 04:04, 20 January 2008 (EST)
But is a BOCKS! Kittehs loves to hied in teh bockses! Lytrigian 15:30, 20 January 2008 (EST)
Ha! I like bocks! I used "Ceiling Catz Holi Bocks" in Joshua. I just say "Israel" on first reference and sometimes "base" after that. I also use "Isrealites" and not "kittehs" because aren't they supposed to be real people just acting like kittehs? aaccording to teh guidelines. --Ahayron 02:09, 13 October 2008 (EDT)

Idea for Satan

Ok, I was just wondering well since cats hate water and thus according to the Ceiling Cat prayer he'd keep you away from water. I believe that our Satan on here should be something along the lines of a water giver or something like that. Or even better than that how about something to do with a Vet? I'd say something like WaterCat (not literally) but like something like Shower cat, you guys can see my point. My cat Daisy though is a good cat that we could use in the Hell scene picture because for some reason she kinda likes water. Not as much as a dog but she can tolerate it. Well there's my two cents. --133794m3r 13:08, 21 January 2008 (EST)

I bet Saitan carries a squirt gun. And Hell is water based instead of fire based. (Although I had a cat once that loved water and enjoyed hoping in the shower, so he was obviously possessed by SATAN!)Happyturtle 16:38, 22 January 2008 (EST)

I like Basement Cat for Satan - seems more rounded - but I definitely like the idea of water imagery being used instead of fire imagery. More cat-fearful!--lolcarol 02:09, 22 March 2008 (EDT)

Does the kitteh narrator understand everything?

I've been translating Luke 12 and Luke 13. Until yesterday, I'd been trying to stick to the spirit of the text, but then I got to the parable of the barren fig tree. The tree is producing no fruit, and the master of the estate wants to cut it down. The steward says 'Let me have another year, and I'll dig around it and dung it and try and get it to make fruit, and if it doesn't make fruit next year, we'll chop it down.' The interpretation is that someone who is not spiritually fruitful is in trouble, but that Jesus has interceded with God to give this person one more chance.

But I thought the concept of a gardener using dung as fertilizer would be a bit over our kitteh's head. So what I put was 6 Den Jebus sez, "Onse up on a tiem, a kitteh haz a fud boel, but evry tiem him goez 2 luk, boel is emtee! Srsly!7 Him wuz liek 'Dis suxs! I trowz dis boel awae!'8 But him frnd sez 'D00d, sted ov trowz boel awae, u shudz maek it be littrbocks! LOL!9 Dat teech bad boel a lesin, an maybee den it haz fud necks tiem u luk.' I like it and hope it stands, but the kitteh narrator completely misses the point of the parable. The barren fig tree is supposed to be nurtured to encourage fruit, not punished. But how would a kitteh ever understand that?

So what does everyone think? Is it okay to miss the point of the text if it's beyond the capacity of the kitteh narrator? Happyturtle 08:44, 25 January 2008 (EST)

Oh Hai, LOL. Wehn kitteh lone in hawse wit no fud, kitteh git upsit. Himz skratchded niec furnehchur up, himz tipz ovr boel, himz nawt pooz inna littrboxz butt pooz onna flor, peez inna hooman shooz anna inna hawseplantz. Himz furtalizez niec hawseplantz, yes? anna telz hooman "LISSEN HEER D00DZ, U B FILLN BOEL WIT MEOW MIX, LIEK SRSLY NAW!" Dats riel bad kitteh. Butt himz gets fed nextyem. Srsly.

--Sips 12:06, 25 January 2008 (EST)

Book Page Formatting

So on the main book pages, like Psalms, we right now just have a vertical listing of the chapters. This is all well and good, but it leaves a lot of blank space on the page and makes people have to scroll down pretty far to get to particular chapters for the longer books. Is there any way we could make like a template or something that puts things in two or three columns instead? Joaquin67 17:58, 5 February 2008 (EST)

Thoughts?--Joaquin67 19:44, 23 February 2008 (EST)

Jesus, Jebus or Jebuz?

The guidlines page say to use Jebus, but I've seen all three in the chapters. I think we need to pick one, and, if possible, do a global search and replace to convert the others. It makes the joke consistent, instead of appearing to be randomly chosen by the editor on that chapter. Anyone agree?

--HoboBob 10:53, 13 March 2008 (EDT)

I've been thinking the same thing. Will probably be doing that over the next few weeks - Jebus seems to be the acceptable standard, so we'll go with that unless there are major objections. Bcdm 02:06, 17 March 2008 (EDT)
Well, it's been over two years... it seems Happy Cat, Jesus, Jebus, and Jebuz are all inter-compatible. There's no need to stick to just one. Srsly. -- Anonymouse 7:19, 4 September 2010 (EST)

I do mah translate

of 1 Chronicles 5, but how do I send it in? I'm stupid here.

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I can duz dooter uh dooter

Since my cat and master Harry is pope of the Indoor Catlick Church, I think his Bible needs to have Deuterocanonicals. I will work on them for him.

--PopeHarrysHooman 22:36, 29 March 2008 (EDT)

Hello. As a rule categories are proper spelling. So your page would need to be updated. Also, it will need to be a category. I'll set it up quickly for you. You can then start making blank category pages for each book. This is standard for how the Bible is structured. Zotnix 23:07, 29 March 2008 (EDT)
Hi Zotnix, thanks, I think I've improved it. Of course, there's no universal standard of book names, viz the canonical Shir ha-Shirim which gets labeled "Song of Solomon" although "Song of Songs" (and the Douay version's "Canticle of Canticles", which could be Cattickle of Cattickles) is a more direct translation of the Hebrew monicker. I've generally, though not slavishly, followed Wikipedia in the matter of book names. --PopeHarrysHooman 23:58, 29 March 2008 (EDT)

== Audio Tracks?


n0 real point addink awedi0 on da pages untill dey are finealized, ssrly. Valiant a tempts by sume, but stum bling ovr wurds combined wif Awedio falling behind text changes makes Awedi0 vewy sub-pa. Awedi0 cud be gud cause some h00mans no reed well. has p0tenshul but tacs up space sumwhare.

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